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Title: Cuelux question about the faders...
Post by: megadanc on December 14, 2010, 11:20:25 PM
Guys,

Does anybody know that it is possible to assign for example 10 features to 1 fader?
By this i mean the following example: I'm using a  movinghead and i want to assign all my colors to 1 fader.
If i open my fader at 10% i get the first color - at 20% the second color and so further on till the fader is complete open at 100%

Maybe the same for the gobo's at 10% the first gobo - at 20% the second gobo....

thx already
Title: Re: Cuelux question about the faders...
Post by: RW on December 15, 2010, 09:24:43 AM
Hi megadanc,

Cuelux is a cuelist-based software. So unfortunately, it's impossible to do that.

Did you already take a look at the bundles feature? In this way you can program the colours on separate go buttons and toggle between them :)
Title: Re: Cuelux question about the faders...
Post by: Monkey on December 15, 2010, 12:47:54 PM

you can put the colors and gobos  on a Cue Button.
So you can change them by clicking on it.

In my opinion is that a better option, because you can also make color compositions.

look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTeAoQ8SJro (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTeAoQ8SJro)
Title: Re: Cuelux question about the faders...
Post by: RW on December 15, 2010, 01:27:28 PM
Hi Monkey,

That's is another option, but then you can only control it in one way: Cue 1 -> 2 -> 3 -> 4 -> ...

With my solution you can jump to every cue: Cue 1 -> 4 -> 7 -> 2 -> 5 -> ...
Eventually, you can make a stacklist so you can control it in your way, or my way  8)
Title: Re: Cuelux question about the faders...
Post by: megadanc on December 15, 2010, 01:40:32 PM
@ Monkey: that's indeed a fine way to do it but the only problem is that the cue buttons that you use can not be controlled with my behringer BCF2000 midi controller. Or am i wrong?

@ Rick: how is bundles working? I can't seem to find anything about this in the manuel, or am i wrong?
Title: Re: Cuelux question about the faders...
Post by: RW on December 15, 2010, 01:51:56 PM
@ Monkey: that's indeed a fine way to do it but the only problem is that the cue buttons that you use can not be controlled with my behringer BCF2000 midi controller. Or am i wrong?
That's true, but..
- You also can put them on a playback fader
- You always can change your midimap

@ Rick: how is bundles working? I can't seem to find anything about this in the manuel, or am i wrong?
No, that's true. The bundles will be explained in the next manual :)

Simple explanation: You can put multiple playback buttons/faders in a bundle. When playback button 1 (with cuelist 1) is active and you run playback button 2 (with cuelist 2), button 1 stops and 2 runs. Same way around.
So you can switch between cuelist very fast (no need to release the other first).
Title: Re: Cuelux question about the faders...
Post by: Monkey on December 15, 2010, 04:03:05 PM

I understand it so:

if you set Bundle to 1, only one Cuelist could be active at the same time,
if you set Bundle to 2, only two Cuelists cound be active at the same time,
if you put bundle to 3, only three...

right?
Title: Re: Cuelux question about the faders...
Post by: megadanc on December 15, 2010, 04:13:34 PM
How does bundles works exact.
Do you need en new or future version of cuelux for this...

greets

Stefan
Title: Re: Cuelux question about the faders...
Post by: Monkey on December 15, 2010, 04:50:01 PM

@ megadanc:
If´ve got version 1.03 14(Elation Emulation) and it works with bundles.

here a video without bundles (Cuelists don´t stop if I press another):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAj7TRat624 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAj7TRat624)

and a video with bundles (Cuelists stop if I press another):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-UOaYXIs0U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-UOaYXIs0U)

Title: Re: Cuelux question about the faders...
Post by: RW on December 16, 2010, 08:57:24 AM
That's right :)
Title: Re: Cuelux question about the faders...
Post by: Zoë Castle on December 16, 2010, 09:52:34 AM
Hello Monkey & Megadanc

It seems to me that you two do not need us anymore as you have figured out bundles already!  But just in case...

We hope to have a updated version of the user manual available online next week with Bundles explained.

This manual will be in English language to start with.  Translations usually get done with thanks to our dealers so it does depend a little on their schedules...

I am glad you are both enjoying using our software, thank you!

Greetings Zoe
Title: Re: Cuelux question about the faders...
Post by: TAHS on December 16, 2010, 11:17:33 AM
Hello Stefan,

There is a option to at this future to a fader... ;)
The only way is to edit your fixture-personality !

You can at a "custom" color/gobo option to your fixture, a "custom" option is also depend from the fader-position.
I did try this with a High End "studio spot 250" and it works OK.
The option is also to keep the normal "gobo" and/or "color" editors as normal.
The fixture will react on the last action.

If you need a help to edit your fixture-personality... please let me now which fixture you are using.

The fader-mapping is depend about your fixture...
If the fixture has 10 colors, the fader-mapping will give each 10% a different color.
If the fixture gets 20 colors, then it's 5% etc.....

Edit:
After you at this future to your fixtures...
You can start to program some cuelists.
In each cuelist you can at a single fixture ore a group...
If you like to at more fixtures together, just select the fixtures you need...
Here a example to make a "GOBO" fader:
After selecting the fixtures...
Set the "custom" gobo value to 100% and record this to the fader you like to use for this function...
Then activate in this cuelist the "background" option, to set this cuelist automatically active by start.
Set the fade in/out times from this cuelist to zero...
Give the cuelist a name and you are done for this "GOBO" fader  :)
If you now move the fader, the fixture(s) will move the gobo-wheel.

Please notice that if you like to programming with the gobo/color faders....
You only can record it as a STACK !

Also notice that if you have programmed more cuelists including the gobo...
It's possible that the gobo-wheel will not listen to your gobo-fader !
You have to find your own way to use it together with your setup/show.

Here a short video to show how it looks: http://flic.kr/p/92mubf (http://flic.kr/p/92mubf)
Title: Re: Cuelux question about the faders...
Post by: megadanc on December 16, 2010, 08:38:51 PM
Hey thas,

Thx for the video.

How do you have to fix that? Do you have to make your own fixture in the builder program?

greets

Stef
Title: Re: Cuelux question about the faders...
Post by: TAHS on December 16, 2010, 08:44:40 PM
Hello Stefan,

It's possible to make this with the "builder" but I still edit the personality file by hand.

Which fixture are you using ?
Title: Re: Cuelux question about the faders...
Post by: megadanc on December 16, 2010, 08:57:31 PM
I'm using the phantom spot 250 V2 from SHOWTEC

I want to add the gobos and the colors to a fader if possible..

thx for the help

greats

Stef
Title: Re: Cuelux question about the faders...
Post by: TAHS on December 16, 2010, 09:07:52 PM
Hello Stefan,

Here the code:
Code: [Select]
fixture "Phantom 250 Spot"
{
angle pan 540 tilt 270
position pan msb 0 0,255
position tilt msb 1 0,255
position pan lsb 2 0,255
position tilt lsb 3 0,255
preset 4 0
custom
{
label "COLOR"
msb 5 0,127
}
color
{
offset 5
slot 0,15 CLR_WHITE
slot 16,31 CLR_BLUE_LIGHT
slot 32,47 CLR_RED
slot 48,63 CLR_UV
slot 64,79 CLR_GREEN
slot 80,95 CLR_YELLOW
slot 96,111 CLR_MAGENTA
slot 112,127 CLR_PINK
scroll 128,191
}
custom
{
label "GOBO"
msb 6 0,79
}
gobo
{
offset 6
slot 0,9 GB_OPEN rotating
slot 10,19 SGM_3B rotating
slot 20,29 ROB_15010505 rotating
slot 30,39 GB_CONE rotating
slot 40,49 GB_TRIANGLE rotating
slot 50,59 GB_CYCLONE rotating
slot 60,69 GB_MOON_CRATOR rotating
slot 70,79 ROB_15020124 rotating
scroll 220,255
rotation msb offset 7 stop 0 cw 128,191 ccw 192,255
index msb offset 7 0,127 angle 360
}
shutter
{
offset 8
on 0,7
}
strobe
{
offset 8
control 23,85
pulse 101,165
random 181,245
}
dimmer
{
msb 9 255,0
}
preset 10 0
preset 11 0
prism
{
offset 12
slot 0,15 facet 1 static
slot 240,255 facet 3 rotating
rotation msb offset 12 stop 240 cw 16,239 ccw 16,239
}
focus
{
msb 13 0,255
}
}

The colors and gobo's are now also set to a "custom" option.
I will sent you a email with the complete "Showtec" file.
Title: Re: Cuelux question about the faders...
Post by: megadanc on December 16, 2010, 09:12:19 PM
Hey thas

Alvast ontzettend bedankt, denk dat deze taal een beetje sneller zal gaan niet?

mvg

Stefan
Title: Re: Cuelux question about the faders...
Post by: TAHS on December 16, 2010, 09:20:32 PM
Hello Stefan,

You welcome... ;)

And yes, in Dutch language it is easier to explain...
But there are a lot other CueLux users from over the world  :D

(you always can sent me a email in Dutch... with your questions)

BTW) did you get my email ?
Title: Re: Cuelux question about the faders...
Post by: megadanc on December 16, 2010, 09:38:32 PM
Marten,

Yes id did get your e-mail and another question  :)

The map where i have to copy this in, is it the same as c: programfiles/visualproductions/cuelux/personalties?

If i replace the showtecfile ion this map and i restart cuelux, add anopther spot nothing seems different to me?

greets

Stefan
Title: Re: Cuelux question about the faders...
Post by: TAHS on December 16, 2010, 09:59:16 PM
Hello Stefan,

I see I did use a old personality file...
Please wait a second, I will sent you a new one in .xml format  ;)
Title: Re: Cuelux question about the faders...
Post by: megadanc on December 16, 2010, 10:04:24 PM
Marten,

Ah ok...

I just sended you an email also with this problem, thinking it was indeed that problem  :)

thx already

Title: Re: Cuelux question about the faders...
Post by: TAHS on December 16, 2010, 10:21:52 PM
Hello Stefan,

You get a email... ;D

Here the new code:
Code: [Select]
        <model label="Phantom 250 Spot" angle_pan="540" angle_tilt="270">
            <changelogs>
                <change username="Visual Productions" notes="Initial version" date="2007-01-01" time="00-00-00-00" />
            </changelogs>
            <part attribute="Position">
                <range function="Pan MSB" offset="0">0,255</range>
                <range function="Tilt MSB" offset="1">0,255</range>
                <range function="Pan LSB" offset="2">0,255</range>
                <range function="Tilt LSB" offset="3">0,255</range>
            </part>
            <part attribute="Custom" label="COLOR">
                <range function="Control MSB" offset="5">0,127</range>
            </part>
            <part attribute="Custom" label="GOBO">
                <range function="Control MSB" offset="6">0,79</range>
            </part>
            <part attribute="Custom" label="Speed">
                <range function="Control MSB" offset="4">0,255</range>
            </part>
                <part attribute="Custom" label="FX">
                    <range function="Control MSB" offset="11">0,255</range>
                </part>
            <part attribute="Reset" time="5.0">
                <range function="On" offset="10">104,104</range>
            </part>
            <mode label="V1.0">
                <part attribute="Colour">
                    <range function="Scroll" offset="5">128,191</range>
                    <slot>
                        <colour>CLR_WHITE</colour>
                        <range function="On" offset="5">0,15</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <colour>CLR_BLUE_LIGHT</colour>
                        <range function="On" offset="5">16,31</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <colour>CLR_RED</colour>
                        <range function="On" offset="5">32,47</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <colour>CLR_UV</colour>
                        <range function="On" offset="5">48,63</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <colour>CLR_GREEN</colour>
                        <range function="On" offset="5">64,79</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <colour>CLR_YELLOW</colour>
                        <range function="On" offset="5">80,95</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <colour>CLR_MAGENTA</colour>
                        <range function="On" offset="5">96,111</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <colour>CLR_PINK</colour>
                        <range function="On" offset="5">112,127</range>
                    </slot>
                </part>
                <part attribute="Gobo">
                    <range function="Scroll" offset="6">220,255</range>
                    <range function="Rotate CW" offset="7">128,191</range>
                    <range function="Rotate CCW" offset="7">192,255</range>
                    <range function="Index MSB" offset="7">0,127</range>
                    <slot>
                        <gobo>GB_OPEN</gobo>
                        <range function="On" offset="6">0,9</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <gobo>SGM_3B</gobo>
                        <range function="On" offset="6">10,19</range>
                        <range function="Shake" offset="6">80,99</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <gobo>ROB_15010505</gobo>
                        <range function="On" offset="6">20,29</range>
                        <range function="Shake" offset="6">100,119</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <gobo>GB_CONE</gobo>
                        <range function="On" offset="6">30,39</range>
                        <range function="Shake" offset="6">120,139</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <gobo>GB_TRIANGLE</gobo>
                        <range function="On" offset="6">40,49</range>
                        <range function="Shake" offset="6">140,159</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <gobo>GB_CYCLONE</gobo>
                        <range function="On" offset="6">50,59</range>
                        <range function="Shake" offset="6">160,179</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <gobo>GB_MOON_CRATOR</gobo>
                        <range function="On" offset="6">60,69</range>
                        <range function="Shake" offset="6">180,199</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <gobo>ROB_15020124</gobo>
                        <range function="On" offset="6">70,79</range>
                        <range function="Shake" offset="6">200,219</range>
                    </slot>
                </part>
                <part attribute="Shutter">
                    <range function="On" offset="8">0,7</range>
                </part>
                <part attribute="Strobe">
                    <range function="Linear" offset="8">23,85</range>
                    <range function="Pulse" offset="8">101,165</range>
                    <range function="Random" offset="8">181,245</range>
                </part>
                <part attribute="Dimmer">
                    <range function="Control MSB" offset="9">255,0</range>
                </part>
                <part attribute="Macro">
                    <range function="On" offset="10">130,145</range>
                    <range function="On" offset="10">146,161</range>
                    <range function="On" offset="10">162,177</range>
                    <range function="On" offset="10">178,193</range>
                    <range function="On" offset="10">194,209</range>
                    <range function="On" offset="10">210,225</range>
                    <range function="On" offset="10">226,241</range>
                    <range function="On" offset="10">242,255</range>
                </part>
                <part attribute="Prism">
                    <slot>
                        <prism>1</prism>
                        <range function="On" offset="12">0,15</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <prism>3</prism>
                        <range function="On" offset="12">240,255</range>
                        <range function="Rotate CW" offset="12">16,239</range>
                        <range function="Rotate CCW" offset="12">16,239</range>
                    </slot>
                </part>
                <part attribute="Focus">
                    <range function="Control MSB" offset="13">0,255</range>
                </part>
            </mode>
            <mode label="V2.0">
                <part attribute="Colour">
                    <range function="Scroll" offset="5">171,255</range>
                    <slot>
                        <colour>CLR_WHITE</colour>
                        <range function="On" offset="5">0,7</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <colour>CLR_BLUE_LIGHT</colour>
                        <range function="On" offset="5">8,15</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <colour>CLR_RED</colour>
                        <range function="On" offset="5">16,23</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <colour>CLR_PINK</colour>
                        <range function="On" offset="5">24,31</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <colour>CLR_GREEN</colour>
                        <range function="On" offset="5">32,39</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <colour>CLR_YELLOW</colour>
                        <range function="On" offset="5">40,47</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <colour>CLR_MAGENTA</colour>
                        <range function="On" offset="5">48,55</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <colour>CLR_UV</colour>
                        <range function="On" offset="5">56,63</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <colour>CLR_WHITE</colour>
                        <colour>CLR_BLUE_LIGHT</colour>
                        <range function="On" offset="5">73,73</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <colour>CLR_BLUE_LIGHT</colour>
                        <colour>CLR_RED</colour>
                        <range function="On" offset="5">87,87</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <colour>CLR_RED</colour>
                        <colour>CLR_PINK</colour>
                        <range function="On" offset="5">99,99</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <colour>CLR_PINK</colour>
                        <colour>CLR_GREEN</colour>
                        <range function="On" offset="5">116,116</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <colour>CLR_GREEN</colour>
                        <colour>CLR_YELLOW</colour>
                        <range function="On" offset="5">129,129</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <colour>CLR_YELLOW</colour>
                        <colour>CLR_MAGENTA</colour>
                        <range function="On" offset="5">145,145</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <colour>CLR_MAGENTA</colour>
                        <colour>CLR_UV</colour>
                        <range function="On" offset="5">160,160</range>
                    </slot>
                </part>
                <part attribute="Gobo">
                    <range function="Scroll" offset="6">220,255</range>
                    <range function="Rotate CW" offset="7">128,191</range>
                    <range function="Rotate CCW" offset="7">192,255</range>
                    <range function="Index MSB" offset="7">0,127</range>
                    <slot>
                        <gobo>GB_OPEN</gobo>
                        <range function="On" offset="6">0,9</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <gobo>SGM_3B</gobo>
                        <range function="On" offset="6">10,19</range>
                        <range function="Shake" offset="6">80,99</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <gobo>ROB_15010505</gobo>
                        <range function="On" offset="6">20,29</range>
                        <range function="Shake" offset="6">100,119</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <gobo>GB_CONE</gobo>
                        <range function="On" offset="6">30,39</range>
                        <range function="Shake" offset="6">120,139</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <gobo>GB_TRIANGLE</gobo>
                        <range function="On" offset="6">40,49</range>
                        <range function="Shake" offset="6">140,159</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <gobo>GB_CYCLONE</gobo>
                        <range function="On" offset="6">50,59</range>
                        <range function="Shake" offset="6">160,179</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <gobo>GB_MOON_CRATOR</gobo>
                        <range function="On" offset="6">60,69</range>
                        <range function="Shake" offset="6">180,199</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <gobo>ROB_15020124</gobo>
                        <range function="On" offset="6">70,79</range>
                        <range function="Shake" offset="6">200,219</range>
                    </slot>
                </part>
                <part attribute="Shutter">
                    <range function="On" offset="8">0,7</range>
                </part>
                <part attribute="Strobe">
                    <range function="Linear" offset="8">23,85</range>
                    <range function="Pulse" offset="8">101,165</range>
                    <range function="Random" offset="8">181,245</range>
                </part>
                <part attribute="Dimmer">
                    <range function="Control MSB" offset="9">0,255</range>
                </part>
                <part attribute="Macro">
                    <range function="On" offset="10">130,145</range>
                    <range function="On" offset="10">146,161</range>
                    <range function="On" offset="10">162,177</range>
                    <range function="On" offset="10">178,193</range>
                    <range function="On" offset="10">194,209</range>
                    <range function="On" offset="10">210,225</range>
                    <range function="On" offset="10">226,241</range>
                    <range function="On" offset="10">242,255</range>
                </part>
                <part attribute="Prism">
                    <range function="Rotate CW" offset="12">16,239</range>
                    <range function="Rotate CCW" offset="12">16,239</range>
                    <slot>
                        <prism>1</prism>
                        <range function="On" offset="12">0,15</range>
                    </slot>
                    <slot>
                        <prism>3</prism>
                        <range function="On" offset="12">240,255</range>
                    </slot>
                </part>
                <part attribute="Focus">
                    <range function="Control MSB" offset="13">0,255</range>
                </part>
            </mode>
        </model>

There are two more "custom" options (SPEED and FX)

Here it works fine with the new code, I'm using CueLux 10320 (windows version)