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Title: german manual for the fixture builder
Post by: Monkey on June 14, 2011, 09:50:55 AM

where can I find a germen manual for the fixture builder software?

I tried to build my own fixture for a LED Bar.
It takes a liitle bit time, but now I checked how to unse the fixture builder.
But one Fader I can´t create.

I want to create a fader in "Misk"
Like this one:

(http://www.abload.de/thumb/miskn7vl.jpg) (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=miskn7vl.jpg)
Title: Re: german manual for the fixture builder
Post by: Maarten Engels on June 14, 2011, 03:22:55 PM
hi Monkey,

We are working on a new German manual, so hopefully soon....

The fader you are referring to is the rotation fader for the Prism part.
Title: Re: german manual for the fixture builder
Post by: Monkey on June 14, 2011, 05:30:20 PM


I want to use the Fader for the intern programms from my Lightmaxx Platinum Led Bar.
The Fader should control the speed.

Which part do I have to put in to bekome a Fader in "MISK"
If I put in a custom part, the fader is in "Custom"

Or is it possible to put in Macros in the Custom area?

what is the difference between "Control" and "Control LSB" ?

I hope you know what I mean :D
Or could you give me a germen adresse where I can ask ?

(http://www.abload.de/thumb/fader2largeumww.jpg) (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=fader2largeumww.jpg) (http://www.abload.de/thumb/fader1largej8q3.jpg) (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=fader1largej8q3.jpg)

Title: Re: german manual for the fixture builder
Post by: Julien Levaufre on June 14, 2011, 07:38:50 PM
The custom part is there to allow you to add any "special" parameter you want... So you can add ine custom parameter in the fixture builder and then named it "macro" (but with 4 letters to allow you to read it easily at the bottom of the fader), and after this you will have a macro fader in the custom part... now if you really want to use  fader you shown in the the misc part, just add a prism parameter, and in the edit window add a rotation fonction and set it to the macro chanel of your bar....
but now the simplest solution is to use the macro parameter, for each intern programm you set a slot , and then in cuelux when you will click on the macro number 1 iit will start the first program, and same for any other macro...
Nowa bout LSB , you now dmx is coded on 8 bits so you can only get 255 different states, if you want to get more different states you can code on 16 bit but this way you have to use 2 chanels, so one chanel will be the first 8 bits and the second one will be the last 8 bits ( this way you have your 16 bits) so to know wich chanel is the first bites and wich one is the last bits,  you use LSB and MSB (low significant bit and Most significant bit), so in the builder control is the bits from 8 to 16 and control LSB is the bits from 0 to 7...
Title: Re: german manual for the fixture builder
Post by: Monkey on June 15, 2011, 03:37:41 PM
OK thanks.

But I´ve got some new questions:

1.
what is the function of the "Reserved" in the Macro part

(http://www.abload.de/thumb/reservedlargebj61.jpg) (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=reservedlargebj61.jpg)

2.
what is the function of the "Parked" part?

(http://www.abload.de/thumb/parkedlargerdwy.jpg) (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=parkedlargerdwy.jpg)
Title: Re: german manual for the fixture builder
Post by: Julien Levaufre on June 15, 2011, 03:59:34 PM
the reserved option is to avoid cuelux to use some value in the dmx chane, as you don't set the idle value, you can "blocked" or "reserved" some value you don't want cuelux to use...
the parked option, i don't know really well but i use it to block some chanels, i won't use but i don't want to conflict with other chanels from the following fixture in my patch..l
Title: Re: german manual for the fixture builder
Post by: Maarten Engels on June 15, 2011, 05:21:38 PM
'Parked' is used to put a channel at a fixed value at all times.

Please also have a look at the English Cuelux user manual at http://www.cuelux.com/downloads/. Chapter 15 describes the Builder in detail.
Title: Re: german manual for the fixture builder
Post by: Monkey on June 16, 2011, 11:48:06 AM

edit:

 :o ??? :-\ ??? >:( ??? ;D

it takes many many time, but now I´ve build a fixture which worked with the intern programms :)
The problem were the fixed colors.
It´s not possible for me to programm them in the fixture.
But they are not so necessary.


Title: Re: german manual for the fixture builder
Post by: Monkey on June 16, 2011, 12:20:39 PM
or could anybody build a fixture within fixed colors?

here are the DMX Values:

http://www61.zippyshare.com/v/72995644/file.html (http://www61.zippyshare.com/v/72995644/file.html)


Edit:

another question: why can´t I define the Lightmaxx Platinum Led Bar Tri as Blinder or Strobe?

Title: Re: german manual for the fixture builder
Post by: Julien Levaufre on June 17, 2011, 08:15:31 AM

another question: why can´t I definne the Lightmaxx Platinum Led Bar Tri not as Blinder or Strobe?


you just have to create a groupe named "blinder" and add the bar to this group, just do the same with a groupe named "strobe"...
Title: Re: german manual for the fixture builder
Post by: Maarten Engels on June 17, 2011, 09:09:06 AM
hi Monkey

attached is an improved version of the personality file.
Title: Re: german manual for the fixture builder
Post by: Monkey on June 17, 2011, 10:14:37 AM

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you just have to create a groupe named "blinder" and add the bar to this group, just do the same with a groupe named "strobe"...

I know how to define a blinder or strobe, but with the Lightmaxx Fixture it don´t work.


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hi Monkey

attached is an improved version of the personality file.

Is it my file? :D I sended it yesterday with the fixture Builder.
I also called it "Edit" in the end.

Could you prove if you can define it as Strobe or Blinder on your PC?
Where Cuelux get the information what it should do if I press Strobe oder Blinder?
Is there a function in the Builder for the globals?
Title: Re: german manual for the fixture builder
Post by: Julien Levaufre on June 17, 2011, 02:54:41 PM
i just tried with teh ficture file maaretn made for you, and the groups are working fine, when i click on the strob button the strobe and dimmer parameters go to full, and when i click on the blinder button the dimmer goes to full..so it's working fine for me! You shoudl do something worng?
Title: Re: german manual for the fixture builder
Post by: Maarten Engels on June 20, 2011, 11:15:02 AM
@Julien
Thanks for testing

@Monkey
It could be your file! Did you fill in your name in the Builder->Options->Username? It will earn you eternal fame :-)
The personalities we write contain information on strobing and other functions of the light. Cuelux uses this information for the 'global' buttons. There is no special 'global' information needed in the personality file.
Title: Re: german manual for the fixture builder
Post by: Monkey on June 20, 2011, 04:01:32 PM
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It could be your file! Did you fill in your name in the Builder->Options->Username? It will earn you eternal fame :-)
I wrote "MaackGyver" That is my DJ Name

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The personalities we write contain information on strobing and other functions of the light
Could you explain this phrase again with other words?
I understood the words, but dont understand the meaning :D

@Julien:
You are right. I tested it again and it works with the strobe and Dimmer parameter.
I thought the RGB parameters have to become white.

@Maarten:
- is it possible to say to the fixture that it should be white in the RGB parameters?
- do you remove the prisma with the Scroll  in the fixture?
  (the scroll changes the speed ot the intern programms in my fixture)
Title: Re: german manual for the fixture builder
Post by: Julien Levaufre on June 20, 2011, 06:37:29 PM
i think i already expleined this in a previous post, but i will do it again.
When you use the strobe global, it push the dimmer and the strob value to full, but for the RGB system it doesn't effect the value of the rgb dimmers. This way you can have the strobe the color you want! So usualy you do a color cuelist whitch will set the color of your fixtures, and so when you will use the strobe global it will strobe with the active color of your cuelist!
Now if you want only a white strobe, you will have to creat a cuelist assigned to a playback button whith the strob, dimmer and RGB alues recorded...
Title: Re: german manual for the fixture builder
Post by: Maarten Engels on June 21, 2011, 03:19:14 PM
@ Monkey
Yes it's possible that I removed it. The thing is, it's best to map those kind of 'special' functions (that do not have a dedicated fader) on a 'custom' fader.
Title: Re: german manual for the fixture builder
Post by: Monkey on June 21, 2011, 11:13:46 PM

@ Julian:

I think it must be possible to say which color should be used with strobe.
My Movingheads are also white if I press the Strobe button.

OK, everybody likes it on his own way, but I want it white :D
Especially because the Movingheads are also white.

@ Maarten:
could you put it on yout "do to List"? A function in the builder where I can selct which color is used with the Strobe.
Title: Re: german manual for the fixture builder
Post by: Julien Levaufre on June 22, 2011, 10:29:26 AM

@ Julian:

I think it must be possible to say which color should be used with strobe.
My Movingheads are also white if I press the Strobe button.

OK, everybody likes it on his own way, but I want it white :D
Especially because the Movingheads are also white.

yes, i undersatnd, but in fact your moving heads are white because it should use an usual lamp and not a LED system...
With a lamp if you just open the shutter and set the strobe to full, you will have a white light strobing, but on the LED you have to set also the dimmer of each led group (REd green and blue)if you don't do that you will have a black strobe!! So this is just a difference in the way it works... Anyway i would be great to be able to set some parameters to the globals as the strob  speed or color, and the smoke level would be great to!!
Title: Re: german manual for the fixture builder
Post by: Monkey on June 22, 2011, 12:29:33 PM
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Anyway i would be great to be able to set some parameters to the globals as the strob  speed or color, and the smoke level would be great to!!

100% agree !