Getting started in Kiosc

[Jordi_d_a]

Hi all,

Let me start of with saying that I'm surprised with the lack of documentation on the entire system.
I'll paint the picture why i came to that conclusion: I've got a couple venues that i have done installations in and that need varying control over their lighting.
Most of the venues I just mounted an Ipad to the wall with some simple pre-made cues and a cuety LPU-1 mounted somewhere in a rack.
The venue I'm installing in now wants a little bit more control so they want to be able to control pretty much every parameter of each fixture but in a very easy to understand way, since the only leg up on the LPU-2 is that it can work with Kiosc I decided to order that box to give it a shot and see if this is gonna be the system that I'm gonna use for everything from now on.
Very quickly I figured out that the LPU-2 is not the way to go because with Kiosc you don't control the box or the fixtures itself which I hoped but you control the app which it runs on, which is fine but really annoying that this is not specified anywhere and it is always named in the same breath as the rest of the boxed with a prominent picture next to it of a very useful colourwheel and pan and tilt control which are not usable on the LPU-2.............

Fine I know I have to order different hardware but now i have no clue which path I have to take.
What I need is like a basic lighting desk but customisable interface where I can preferably select a group of fixtures wich they can then pick a colour in a colour wheel and maybe even an axis panel to control the pan and tilt.

I know that there is a learning curve with the Kiosc software which is fine cause it is something that I might be able to use in a lot of different applications but I can not seem to find any examples of tags/code to make anyhting work that controls more than one parameter which infuriates me, I get that it is more of a create your own logical sentence kind of protocol but when even the manual of your software fails to provide answers or examples how are you supposed to get started in an ecosystem like this.
At the moment I'm trying a lot of things out trough brute force with Kiosc connected to the CueluxPRO software because there I have found that I can easily monitor both what I am sending to the software and what specific parts of the software would like to hear in both OSC and UDP.

I hope someone can point me in the right direction to move forward.

Kind regards,

Jordi den Adel
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[Julien Levaufre]

Hello Jordi,
I am sorry that you are not getting a nice experience starting using our products I will try my best to guide you, you will see in the end that everything is quite straight forward.
Using a LPU-2 was a good idea to be able to use KIOSC to control it.
But as you noticed the LPU-2 doesn't allows you to have individual fixture control.
The LPU-2 use the Cuety app to create the cues and playback and then you can remotely trigger those cues and playback using the API commands.
The list of API commands is available in the Cuety manual and you can see from here that all API control are only oriented on the playbacks.

Now, if you want to be able to select each fixture individually from kiosc to control pan/tilt, intensity colors etc... you will have a look at our. CueCore3,
With the CueCore3 you will be able, from the kiosc, to select a fixture , change the parameters of the selected fixture just like you need. The down side of using a CueCore3 is that the creations of cues and playback will be different from the LPU-2/Cuety as the CueCore doesn't include a real time DMX engine, it is a DMX recorder.
That means that you will have to record the DMX content coming from a different controller ( for example your LPU-2) inside the CueCore3 memory.
The CueCore3 have some API messages, but you can also directly use the show control functions that will give you way more freedom in the way you want to control things.

To finish, about KIOSC, this is designed to be just a user interface sending a trigger when an event is done by the user. Any logic should be implemented into a 'brain" component taking care of the whole show control ( for example a CueCore3).
The Kiosc manual is the most complete manual we have listing all the capabilities of KIOSC.
If you have any specific question about it, that you cannot find the answer in the manual, it will be my pleasure to answer it.

I hope this will help you,